How Many Stops Nd Filter For Waterfalls

ND Filter for waterfalls: How many stops?

Sam - U.k. • Regular Member • Posts: 184

ND Filter for waterfalls: How many stops?

May 12, 2004

I want to by a ND filter.
I saw a thread on this topic but got confused with the stops.

Someone said viii stops. Did he mean 8x or actually viii stops that is 2.4ND as per ND filter ratings. For ND Filter 8x means merely three stops.

What is a sufficient amount of ND for waterfall pictures?
Delight specify in exposure stops or 0.6/0.ix/ane.eight or 4x/8x/16x format.

Cheers
Sam

Re: ND Filter for waterfalls: How many stops?

In reply to Sam - UK • May 12, 2004

I don't recall yous'll find one filter that will be optimal or fifty-fifty sufficient for all waterfall shots. I've taken quite a few myself nether lots of different conditions. You tin can see some of my D7 shots at my web site, danheimsoth.com. I've taken my new A2 out to shoot waterfalls a few time this spring but I don't accept whatever of those shots posted still. I'k actually tedious about updating my web site. The filters I use with the A2 are the same every bit I used with the D7, and the ready I usually take for waterfalls is a polarizer, 8x ND (low contour), 4x ND (depression contour), and 4x Slope ND. All are 62mm, used with a 49-62 step-up band. The depression contour is important because it allows me to employ either the polarizer or the Grad with a ND stacked on top without vignetting. I have other filters, but they usually aren't needed, and when packing calorie-free (backpacking or long day hike) they get left behind. If y'all can but get 1 filter, I'd get the polarizer. And then add others later. The order I listed them in above probably corresponds to their frequency of apply for me.

Dan Heimsoth

Sam - UK wrote:

I want to by a ND filter.
I saw a thread on this topic but got dislocated with the stops.

Someone said viii stops. Did he hateful 8x or actually 8 stops that is
two.4ND as per ND filter ratings. For ND Filter 8x means simply 3 stops.

What is a sufficient corporeality of ND for waterfall pictures?
Please specify in exposure stops or 0.6/0.9/one.viii or 4x/8x/16x format.

Thank you
Sam

MostlyLF • Forum Member • Posts: 54

Re: ND Filter for waterfalls: How many stops?

In reply to Sam - Great britain • May 12, 2004

I assume you want a slow shutter speed and then that the water blurs and appears to flow. Patently, obtaining a ho-hum shutter speed depends upon a number of variables: one) the light on the scene, 2) the ISO speed you lot have the camera set at; 3) the f/end you set the camera at. If you are working in a forest and yous employ ISO 64 (which is a good idea anyway because you lot get less noise), yous may not need any filter to get a speed in the 1/10th to 1/2 2nd range which will blur the water. I have establish that with my A2 the sharpest pictures are those shot in the f/5.six-6.3 range and that stopping down to f/11 introduces a piffling unsharpness. If you can't get a slow speed with a middle setting a neutral density filter that lost yous one or two stops might be useful (again depending upon ambient lite--here in the northwoods most waterfalls are under the trees often in deep shade). A polariser might exist an alternative--it volition lose you lot 2 stops. Of grade that solution may besides alter reflections (which may be desirable in fact). If you can visit the scene and so return later, I'd practice so with your photographic camera and see what the light is like a various times of 24-hour interval. So yous tin can more accurately know what you need. Perhaps ISO 64 and some shade is acceptable. fifty

Sam - UK wrote:

I want to past a ND filter.
I saw a thread on this topic just got dislocated with the stops.

Someone said 8 stops. Did he hateful 8x or actually 8 stops that is
ii.4ND as per ND filter ratings. For ND Filter 8x means only 3 stops.

What is a sufficient amount of ND for waterfall pictures?
Please specify in exposure stops or 0.half dozen/0.9/i.8 or 4x/8x/16x format.

Cheers
Sam

OP Sam - UK • Regular Member • Posts: 184

Dan, question abt Multicoat on PL & ND

Dan,

Do you use 62mm PL, ND with multicoated to avoid flare and reflection or without multicoats are as well fine?

I am request considering 62mm ND, PL are much costlier than 49mm and peculiarly multi coat ones.

Is it ok to use non multicoated ones? Is ther a way to avoide flare and reflections while shooting Sky/Waterfall with PL/ND?
Thanks
Sam
A1

Dan Heimsoth wrote:
I don't recollect you'll discover ane filter that will be optimal or fifty-fifty
sufficient for all waterfall shots. I've taken quite a few myself
under lots of unlike conditions. You tin run into some of my D7
shots at my web site, danheimsoth.com. I've taken my new A2 out to
shoot waterfalls a few time this spring but I don't have whatever of
those shots posted yet. I'one thousand actually slow most updating my spider web
site. The filters I use with the A2 are the same every bit I used with
the D7, and the set I unremarkably have for waterfalls is a polarizer,
8x ND (low profile), 4x ND (low profile), and 4x Slope ND. All
are 62mm, used with a 49-62 step-up band. The low profile is
important because information technology allows me to apply either the polarizer or the
Grad with a ND stacked on pinnacle without vignetting. I take other
filters, but they usually aren't needed, and when packing low-cal
(backpacking or long day hike) they get left behind. If y'all can
but become 1 filter, I'd get the polarizer. Then add others subsequently.
The order I listed them in to a higher place probably corresponds to their
frequency of use for me.

Dan Heimsoth

Sam - UK wrote:

I want to by a ND filter.
I saw a thread on this topic but got confused with the stops.

Someone said 8 stops. Did he hateful 8x or really 8 stops that is
2.4ND every bit per ND filter ratings. For ND Filter 8x means just 3 stops.

What is a sufficient amount of ND for waterfall pictures?
Please specify in exposure stops or 0.6/0.9/i.8 or 4x/8x/16x format.

Thanks
Sam

ph0t0man • Veteran Fellow member • Posts: 3,228

get for MC

In answer to Sam - United kingdom of great britain and northern ireland • May 12, 2004

They are more expensive, but they make a big difference IMO. All of the elements in your lens are Multicoated with high quality coatings, in that location is no sense in putting a single slice of bad drinking glass in front of all that high quality glass. If money is an outcome (for most of it is...) then salve your money, and purchase a decent MC PL.

If y'all e'er plan on using information technology on a SLR/DSLR, then you lot'll need a CPL, just if not, then just go the PL. PLs on SLR focusing systems don't cooperate, and focusing tin exist incommunicable.

If your going to get a ND, yous'll probably want to selection up a skillful quality 8x ND filter. I'thousand waiting on my A1 purchase to add more than filters, but the next filter I buy is going to exist an 8x ND.
--
-Matt
http://www.pbase.com/ph0t0man

PDM • Veteran Fellow member • Posts: 3,197

Re: ND Filter for waterfalls: How many stops?

In answer to Sam - UK • May 12, 2004

I would recommend a two or 3 stop ND filter for general utilize. Sometimes you may want to use it with a polarizer to reduce reflections. Other times a polarizer may exist all you demand. I did this with only a polarizer on my A2 at ISO64 (-0.7 exposure comp dialed in though and then more like ISO100):

Paul

Sam - Britain wrote:

I want to by a ND filter.
I saw a thread on this topic just got confused with the stops.

Someone said viii stops. Did he mean 8x or actually eight stops that is
2.4ND as per ND filter ratings. For ND Filter 8x ways just 3 stops.

What is a sufficient amount of ND for waterfall pictures?
Please specify in exposure stops or 0.6/0.9/1.8 or 4x/8x/16x format.

Cheers
Sam

Re: go for MC

In answer to ph0t0man • May 13, 2004

I hold with Matt that the MC will make a difference and I think y'all volition somewhen want it, but I've had upkeep constraints myself and accept bought and used some not-MC filters. Depending on the lighting conditions, in that location are times when I think the non-MC filters volition produce perfectly acceptable results, but eventually you will run into cases where they will have problems. So you'll either put up with the problem or save up for ameliorate filters. Once you do become the MC filters the others will sit down unused, simply I guess they could be emergency backups, or sold on ebay so equally not to be a total waste matter of coin.

OP Sam - UK • Regular Member • Posts: 184

Thank you all

In respond to Sam - UK • May 13, 2004

I got it.
ND 8x + Polarizer stacked if needed
and both Multicoated.

Thanks
Sam

Sam - United kingdom wrote:

I want to by a ND filter.
I saw a thread on this topic merely got confused with the stops.

Someone said 8 stops. Did he mean 8x or really eight stops that is
2.4ND equally per ND filter ratings. For ND Filter 8x means only 3 stops.

What is a sufficient amount of ND for waterfall pictures?
Delight specify in exposure stops or 0.6/0.9/1.8 or 4x/8x/16x format.

Cheers
Sam

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